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		<title>By: WastedEnergy</title>
		<link>http://rayharvey.org/index.php/2010/02/legalizing-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-553</link>
		<dc:creator>WastedEnergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The money currently spent on the &quot;War on Drugs&quot; would be much better spent helping addicts recover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The money currently spent on the &#8220;War on Drugs&#8221; would be much better spent helping addicts recover.</p>
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		<title>By: R.U. Joshin</title>
		<link>http://rayharvey.org/index.php/2010/02/legalizing-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-440</link>
		<dc:creator>R.U. Joshin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, though, your Exercise and Weight Loss article bored me to fucking tears–I found myself falling asleep while reading it. The vespiary of devoted readers won’t make much of it either. I’ll bet you your season pass to Waterworld.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, though, your Exercise and Weight Loss article bored me to fucking tears–I found myself falling asleep while reading it. The vespiary of devoted readers won’t make much of it either. I’ll bet you your season pass to Waterworld.</p>
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		<title>By: R.U. Joshin</title>
		<link>http://rayharvey.org/index.php/2010/02/legalizing-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-439</link>
		<dc:creator>R.U. Joshin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, where’s your edge? This essay was the first one posted on these pages that did not offend me. What’s happened to you…old age? scurvy? lack of confidence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, where’s your edge? This essay was the first one posted on these pages that did not offend me. What’s happened to you…old age? scurvy? lack of confidence?</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 06:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BedazzledCrone wrote: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Why didn’t the second link create a hyperlink? Maybe your blog has an inbuilt bullshit detector&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Would that it were true!

I think the real reason is that there wasn&#039;t a space between dissenters(http://www

Don&#039;t quote me on that, though. I fixed it.

Thank you for dropping by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BedazzledCrone wrote: </p>
<blockquote><p>Why didn’t the second link create a hyperlink? Maybe your blog has an inbuilt bullshit detector</p></blockquote>
<p>Would that it were true!</p>
<p>I think the real reason is that there wasn&#8217;t a space between dissenters(<a href="http://www" rel="nofollow">http://www</a></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t quote me on that, though. I fixed it.</p>
<p>Thank you for dropping by.</p>
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		<title>By: BedazzledCrone</title>
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		<dc:creator>BedazzledCrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 02:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why didn&#039;t the second link create a hyperlink? Maybe your blog has an inbuilt bullshit detector - are my biases showing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t the second link create a hyperlink? Maybe your blog has an inbuilt bullshit detector &#8211; are my biases showing?</p>
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		<title>By: Redmond</title>
		<link>http://rayharvey.org/index.php/2010/02/legalizing-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator>Redmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 02:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Mitch

-Just when I was ready to wash my hands of you, just when I thought you had sold your soul to Fox News-

What are you talking about? have you listened to Glenn Beck lately? or any of their commentators?
They are about as far from libertarians as you can get!
Regards
Redmond</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Mitch</p>
<p>-Just when I was ready to wash my hands of you, just when I thought you had sold your soul to Fox News-</p>
<p>What are you talking about? have you listened to Glenn Beck lately? or any of their commentators?<br />
They are about as far from libertarians as you can get!<br />
Regards<br />
Redmond</p>
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		<title>By: BedazzledCrone</title>
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		<dc:creator>BedazzledCrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 02:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You nailed it! 

Since I agree with you, my students are always scandalized when we end up discussing the legalization of drugs. They all seem to think that marijuana maybe - but the other stuff? They have a really hard time making the connection that their friends/family members, etc. who are in jail. have OD&#039;d, or are living in squalor to feed their habits are in that position because drugs are illegal. 

Legalize all drugs, then control them and tax them, if you must. Have huge social marketing campaigns to try and get people to steer clear of them. But legalize them.

I have only one suggestion - you should have put the cost of the &quot;war on drugs&quot; in the blog - the cost of law enforcement (policing, public defenders, court time), and the cost of incarceration and building new jails, (and maybe the social costs such as the increase in HIV/AIDS among IVDUs - that&#039;s a little harder to find). Just think how much money could be saved and used for something else &amp; think of all those tax revenues (inappropriate ad hominem thought deleted).

So now are you going to do a blog on abortion? That one is really fun, particularly, since there is an argument that a significant part of the decrease in the crime rate over the last decade or so, is causally connected to the legalization of abortion (http://www.wright.edu/~tdung/abortion.htm). There are, of course, dissenters(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nrlc.org/news/2001/NRL06/randylaura.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nrlc.org/news/2001/NRL06/randylaura.html&lt;/a&gt;) - the latter link is clearly made by people who believe that abortion is murder. The 1st paper is published, the 2nd is a working paper, both academic. Ah the biases of scientists. And we wonder why people want to just go with the flow (the one that fits with their prior worldviews).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You nailed it! </p>
<p>Since I agree with you, my students are always scandalized when we end up discussing the legalization of drugs. They all seem to think that marijuana maybe &#8211; but the other stuff? They have a really hard time making the connection that their friends/family members, etc. who are in jail. have OD&#8217;d, or are living in squalor to feed their habits are in that position because drugs are illegal. </p>
<p>Legalize all drugs, then control them and tax them, if you must. Have huge social marketing campaigns to try and get people to steer clear of them. But legalize them.</p>
<p>I have only one suggestion &#8211; you should have put the cost of the &#8220;war on drugs&#8221; in the blog &#8211; the cost of law enforcement (policing, public defenders, court time), and the cost of incarceration and building new jails, (and maybe the social costs such as the increase in HIV/AIDS among IVDUs &#8211; that&#8217;s a little harder to find). Just think how much money could be saved and used for something else &amp; think of all those tax revenues (inappropriate ad hominem thought deleted).</p>
<p>So now are you going to do a blog on abortion? That one is really fun, particularly, since there is an argument that a significant part of the decrease in the crime rate over the last decade or so, is causally connected to the legalization of abortion (<a href="http://www.wright.edu/~tdung/abortion.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.wright.edu/~tdung/abortion.htm</a>). There are, of course, dissenters(<a href="http://www.nrlc.org/news/2001/NRL06/randylaura.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nrlc.org/news/2001/NRL06/randylaura.html</a>) &#8211; the latter link is clearly made by people who believe that abortion is murder. The 1st paper is published, the 2nd is a working paper, both academic. Ah the biases of scientists. And we wonder why people want to just go with the flow (the one that fits with their prior worldviews).</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Mitch:&lt;/b&gt; Thank you for the backhanded compliment, I guess. And just incidentally, I&#039;m not with the tea party. When you say &quot;It’s been some months since I’ve been able to agree with you, since your book in fact&quot; -- you means &lt;a href=&quot;http://rayharvey.org/index.php/books/#book_2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this book&lt;/a&gt;, right? Or did you mean &lt;a href=&quot;http://rayharvey.org/index.php/books/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt;?

&lt;b&gt;Pherigo:&lt;/b&gt; Thanks so much for dropping by. Thanks even more for dropping all the F bombs, which, I must say, left me very emotionally erect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Mitch:</b> Thank you for the backhanded compliment, I guess. And just incidentally, I&#8217;m not with the tea party. When you say &#8220;It’s been some months since I’ve been able to agree with you, since your book in fact&#8221; &#8212; you means <a href="http://rayharvey.org/index.php/books/#book_2" rel="nofollow">this book</a>, right? Or did you mean <a href="http://rayharvey.org/index.php/books/" rel="nofollow">this one</a>?</p>
<p><b>Pherigo:</b> Thanks so much for dropping by. Thanks even more for dropping all the F bombs, which, I must say, left me very emotionally erect.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray -- 

Just when I was ready to wash my hands of you, just when I thought you had sold your soul to Fox News, just when I had about had enough of your stupidty, you write this article and totally redeem yourself. It’s been some months since I’ve been able to agree with you, since your book in fact. It’s nice to see you coming around on the Republicans. Hey, maybe if I&#039;m real lucky, you&#039;ll wake up and see the teabaggers for what they are too: a crock of shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray &#8212; </p>
<p>Just when I was ready to wash my hands of you, just when I thought you had sold your soul to Fox News, just when I had about had enough of your stupidty, you write this article and totally redeem yourself. It’s been some months since I’ve been able to agree with you, since your book in fact. It’s nice to see you coming around on the Republicans. Hey, maybe if I&#8217;m real lucky, you&#8217;ll wake up and see the teabaggers for what they are too: a crock of shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Pherigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pherigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’ve always held the more or less same belief as you do on this subject and the subject of whores. (I dont know about the cliche &quot;that its the oldest profession&quot; and not that it matters.It certainly is one of the oldest).

The view that this all should be legalized and made a transparent profession is the same approach we should apply to drugs and gambling also. The efforts by our goverment and law enforcement are actually responsable for turning one persons habits or desires in to crimes that present victims.
In both cases if you took out the middle man which would be the pimp in the case of prostitution, and the dealer in the case of drugs, the money takes a different route.

The route as it stands in both cases gives an opportunity for all kinds of shit to happen. the cash is always a greater temptation than the product or service.

Unfortunatly we have the hypocrasy factor to deal with in this country.We are all whores to certain extent. We demoralize and/or sell our services as humans in countless ways.

We have shitheads in congress who I believe have sold there souls to achieve fulfillment in what ever areas they feel are important. And society even goes so far as to project the idea and sell the idea that its O.K. to make a lady with no underwear front page news in our media. We are allowed to skirt and play sexuality in so many contexts that are legal, and quite frankly stupid and disgusting. We can shove sex to the public in so many ways , via Girls gone wild or Paris Hilton on the news. Even reports of peodophiles are stimulating to the public simply because sex ia attached to it.

The bottom line is this. SEX AND DRUGS SELL! But we better not catch you paying for it!
We will shove it down your throat at every opportunity available. We will present it to you in every fashion immaginable, except for the actual act itself.

Its pretty fucking stupid really. The more I sit here and think about it the dumber it gets.
Its like the carrot and the stick. Unfortunatly in this case society is holding the carrot and saying; &quot;go ahead, we know you want it, but if you so much as touch that carrot we will lock you up ! and the carrot!&quot;

Now how fucking stupid is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve always held the more or less same belief as you do on this subject and the subject of whores. (I dont know about the cliche &#8220;that its the oldest profession&#8221; and not that it matters.It certainly is one of the oldest).</p>
<p>The view that this all should be legalized and made a transparent profession is the same approach we should apply to drugs and gambling also. The efforts by our goverment and law enforcement are actually responsable for turning one persons habits or desires in to crimes that present victims.<br />
In both cases if you took out the middle man which would be the pimp in the case of prostitution, and the dealer in the case of drugs, the money takes a different route.</p>
<p>The route as it stands in both cases gives an opportunity for all kinds of shit to happen. the cash is always a greater temptation than the product or service.</p>
<p>Unfortunatly we have the hypocrasy factor to deal with in this country.We are all whores to certain extent. We demoralize and/or sell our services as humans in countless ways.</p>
<p>We have shitheads in congress who I believe have sold there souls to achieve fulfillment in what ever areas they feel are important. And society even goes so far as to project the idea and sell the idea that its O.K. to make a lady with no underwear front page news in our media. We are allowed to skirt and play sexuality in so many contexts that are legal, and quite frankly stupid and disgusting. We can shove sex to the public in so many ways , via Girls gone wild or Paris Hilton on the news. Even reports of peodophiles are stimulating to the public simply because sex ia attached to it.</p>
<p>The bottom line is this. SEX AND DRUGS SELL! But we better not catch you paying for it!<br />
We will shove it down your throat at every opportunity available. We will present it to you in every fashion immaginable, except for the actual act itself.</p>
<p>Its pretty fucking stupid really. The more I sit here and think about it the dumber it gets.<br />
Its like the carrot and the stick. Unfortunatly in this case society is holding the carrot and saying; &#8220;go ahead, we know you want it, but if you so much as touch that carrot we will lock you up ! and the carrot!&#8221;</p>
<p>Now how fucking stupid is that?</p>
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