Comments on: Johann Bessler And His Perpetual Motion Machine

By: Michael

Michael — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:33:53 +0000

I am not positive, but it doesent sound like anyone of the above posters have really studdied Bessler in depth. On and off I have gathered as much data about the man since 2006 as I could, And I find it hard to believe he could have fooled all those people! Some very intelligent people visited him and his wheel, Libneitz, s Gravsande, Wolf, And they all came away convinced he had the real deal!

By: Dale

Dale — Tue, 05 Apr 2011 01:04:14 +0000

Cool breeze?
“Upon impact a ratcheting release would exert small amounts of the stored energy into the system.” Sounds like my dad’s antique pocket watch.
Does the name suggest winding rather than moving air?
Great explanation, either way.

By: Ray

Ray — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 20:13:10 +0000

Your comment was like a cool breeze, wind.

Thank you for dropping by.

By: wind

wind — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 01:37:19 +0000

funny Dale.

I’ve concluded that Bessler was probably a clever fraud, not obvious. My guess is that he used highly compressed springs inside of what otherwise appeared to be cylindrical weights. Upon impact a ratcheting release would exert small amounts of the stored energy into the system. That was one of his show pieces. Another was simply run by an accomplice. As soon as skeptics were on to him he adjusted his show.

By: Dale

Dale — Fri, 18 Mar 2011 00:19:16 +0000

You forgot this example: public employee unions elect politicians who give union members sweet deals at taxpayer expense, so unions can give more to elect politicians that give them sweeter deals at taxpayer expense, ad nauseum.

By: rwashburn

rwashburn — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:34:23 +0000

It is dogma and the idiocy of The band wagon effect that allows an empirical to exclude what is possible..In Orwellian fashion, Greg: March 2nd. 2010 @ 0840 hrs gives a definition that is true, but equally detracts from what is exceptable as a Perpetual Motion Machine. By citing immutable laws, corrupted by less than empirical conclusions the scientific community has shamed themselves.

By: greg king

greg king — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 01:38:19 +0000

this message is for all you free thinkers out there.
its pretty obvious that the bessler wheel worked and so do a hell of a lot of other devices work ,so the question is not.[is it real or not].the question should be. [how do they work] We should be embracing this technology with open arms, The suppression is great and covers every aspect of human existence .and the energy question is just one of them.but slowly humanity is waking up.
and there’s so much to discover. so my challenge to you all is build a gravity wheel after all bessler did it 300 years ago .you can do it too.
gods speed.

By: Greg

Greg — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 17:00:27 +0000

Mr. King,

The Karra gravity wheel is an interesting machine. Judging by their website I remain skeptical. Their latest news is 2.5 years old referring to a both at Wirec in March 2008. If a machine can produce free energy 24 hours a day why do you suppose they isn’t more in the press? Or claims that they’ve sold x thousands of machines across the world? Oh right, it is a scam.

If you’re sold on this machine then I suggest you invest every dime you have. If what they claim is true, 2+ year run time, at $0.00/kwh you would be a millionaire in a few short months.

By: greg king

greg king — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 11:02:20 +0000

hi greg.
thanks for the reply.
have you seen the karra green gravity wheel
it seems that theirs more than one way to run on gravity

By: Greg

Greg — Mon, 08 Nov 2010 17:55:12 +0000

Mr. King, the friction in the wheel will eventually bring it to a complete stop. There is no overcoming this loss of energy even with the best bearings in the world. Once the wheel slows down too much there will not be enough momentum to bring the next ball around to fall.

You may build such a wheel to spin for 54 days but that is nowhere near perpetual (i.e. infinity). Build one that spins for 365 days and you might raise some eyebrows.

By: greg king

greg king — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 03:55:59 +0000

when one pound can lift three.one ball falling three balls seated.in my mind there is a way this can be achieved .I’d call it the hammer effect.The falling begins on up hill side and rolls across gaining speed and hitting side of wheel always returning to out side position.divide a circle into three .There the three balls will roll. each in its own oval type circle constantly falling and returning only to fall again creating force to turn the wheel. god bless.

By: Greg

Greg — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:24:04 +0000

Nneba,

Soon to be corrected aye? Almost 300 years wasn’t enough to uncover the mysterious secrets of Bessler Wheel? You could have 3,000 years and still not prove Bessler’s claim. Perpetual motion in a closed system is impossible.

Bessler was a fraud and Issac Newton still remains the genius. It is not Newton’s first law of motion that the Bessler Wheel violates it is the second law of thermodynamics that renders Bessler’s claim untenable.

By: Nneba

Nneba — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:52:57 +0000

Greg you will soon stand corrected,

And others who share your opinion will be silenced, Bessler was a good man, and a genius. His accomplishments were oppressed by people like Sir Newton who wanted to protect their acheivements. In the near future, Newton will be labeled the fraud, and the “first law” will be re considered.

MARK MY WORDS!!!

By: Redmond

Redmond — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:30:42 +0000

whatever happened to these guys?

Orbo? I gotta go through their site, haven’t in a while

http://www.steorn.com/

By: Ray

Ray — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:55:14 +0000

Fair enough, Greg, fair enough. Although I don't know that the definition is quite so universal, particularly among scientists.

By: Greg

Greg — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:40:08 +0000

History is full of con-men like Bessler (aka Orffyre) attempting to defraud their investors and customers with promises of perpetual motion.

I do not think the collective “we” define perpetual motion in such a way. The common accepted definition is:

“Perpetual Motion – The hypothetical continuous operation of an isolated mechanical device or other closed system without a sustaining energy source.”

None of the five examples meet the “Closed System” criteria of the common definition.