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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://rayharvey.org/index.php/2010/03/mcdonalds-and-the-clam-shell/comment-page-1/#comment-2791</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that&#039;s a whole lot of retarded.</description>
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		<title>By: Sustainability in EPS Packaging &#124; ACH Foam Technologies Blog</title>
		<link>http://rayharvey.org/index.php/2010/03/mcdonalds-and-the-clam-shell/comment-page-1/#comment-2442</link>
		<dc:creator>Sustainability in EPS Packaging &#124; ACH Foam Technologies Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Clamshell are debatable, the consumer was convinced at that time that it was the right decision.  Read more about the McDonalds clamshell in Ray Harvey&#8217;s blog. He discusses some very valid points about environmental misperceptions of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Clamshell are debatable, the consumer was convinced at that time that it was the right decision.  Read more about the McDonalds clamshell in Ray Harvey&#8217;s blog. He discusses some very valid points about environmental misperceptions of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WastedEnergy</title>
		<link>http://rayharvey.org/index.php/2010/03/mcdonalds-and-the-clam-shell/comment-page-1/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator>WastedEnergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that some of the demands made by environmentalists have been absurd.  McDonald&#039;s has actually made some decent strides in improving the sustainability of their business, like agreeing not to purchase beef raised on deforested Amazon land and product stewardship measures like sending all the waste from their London stores to incinerators rather than landfills.  But at the same time, it is important to recognize that they still have a long way to go, and do engage in a lot of manipulative marketing and serve a lot of really, really unhealthy food.

It&#039;s important to keep an eye on both the supercorporations and the &quot;green&quot; lobbyists, as both are often prone to overzealousness in pursuit of either &quot;record profit&quot; or &quot;zero waste.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that some of the demands made by environmentalists have been absurd.  McDonald&#8217;s has actually made some decent strides in improving the sustainability of their business, like agreeing not to purchase beef raised on deforested Amazon land and product stewardship measures like sending all the waste from their London stores to incinerators rather than landfills.  But at the same time, it is important to recognize that they still have a long way to go, and do engage in a lot of manipulative marketing and serve a lot of really, really unhealthy food.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to keep an eye on both the supercorporations and the &#8220;green&#8221; lobbyists, as both are often prone to overzealousness in pursuit of either &#8220;record profit&#8221; or &#8220;zero waste.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Hamburgler</title>
		<link>http://rayharvey.org/index.php/2010/03/mcdonalds-and-the-clam-shell/comment-page-1/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamburgler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will say but two things on this:

First off, I love McDonalds. I eat it regularly. Why? Because it works. It’s good. It’s consistent. I can go anywhere in the world and enjoy McDonalds… And I have! I made it a point to eat McDonalds just once in in every country I visited, and from England to Portugal to the UAE, McDonalds was McDonalds. Some day I’d like to make it to Japan, and I will eat McDonalds there too, just because.

It is because of this worldly success that the left hates McDonalds. The socialists hate success. They always have. It means that capitalism works. People around the world love McDonalds, and so McDonalds thrives around the world. It is capitalism in it’s purist and most beautiful form. I may have had a different opinion had my Quarter Pounder with Cheese been different or less satisfying in Portugal, but it wasn’t. That, my friends, is success at its finest.

Secondly, going back to personal accountability, I would like to personally go out and meet the morons face-to-face who try to sue McDonalds or blame them for their weight problems. I’d like to meet them and then pimp slap them. Where has personal accountability gone? I, for one, went over a year eating McDonalds 3 times a day 3 times a week and 2 times a day twice a week. I was in the Navy and going to school full time, and it was the only restaurant we had on base (we were a small base). So on school days I had breakfast lunch and dinner (we worked 6 to 4 and I had school from 5 to 10) and the other days it was just breakfast and lunch. I probably did this for about a year and a half or so… But, I didn’t die. I didn’t get fat. I had 3 physical readiness tests and 1 medical physical during that time, and my health was great… But how?? Personal accountability. I may have eaten all that McDonalds, but I also worked out 5 days a week and kept myself in good shape. I didn’t always gorge myself on supersize fries. I didn’t always go for the Coke. But when it came down to it, I ate a lot of beef, bread, eggs and cheese… And really, is that such a bad thing? Sure, you can let yourself go and then they become bad things, but otherwise those things are building blocks! They are not bad for you so long as you are living an otherwise healthy life.

Just some food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will say but two things on this:</p>
<p>First off, I love McDonalds. I eat it regularly. Why? Because it works. It’s good. It’s consistent. I can go anywhere in the world and enjoy McDonalds… And I have! I made it a point to eat McDonalds just once in in every country I visited, and from England to Portugal to the UAE, McDonalds was McDonalds. Some day I’d like to make it to Japan, and I will eat McDonalds there too, just because.</p>
<p>It is because of this worldly success that the left hates McDonalds. The socialists hate success. They always have. It means that capitalism works. People around the world love McDonalds, and so McDonalds thrives around the world. It is capitalism in it’s purist and most beautiful form. I may have had a different opinion had my Quarter Pounder with Cheese been different or less satisfying in Portugal, but it wasn’t. That, my friends, is success at its finest.</p>
<p>Secondly, going back to personal accountability, I would like to personally go out and meet the morons face-to-face who try to sue McDonalds or blame them for their weight problems. I’d like to meet them and then pimp slap them. Where has personal accountability gone? I, for one, went over a year eating McDonalds 3 times a day 3 times a week and 2 times a day twice a week. I was in the Navy and going to school full time, and it was the only restaurant we had on base (we were a small base). So on school days I had breakfast lunch and dinner (we worked 6 to 4 and I had school from 5 to 10) and the other days it was just breakfast and lunch. I probably did this for about a year and a half or so… But, I didn’t die. I didn’t get fat. I had 3 physical readiness tests and 1 medical physical during that time, and my health was great… But how?? Personal accountability. I may have eaten all that McDonalds, but I also worked out 5 days a week and kept myself in good shape. I didn’t always gorge myself on supersize fries. I didn’t always go for the Coke. But when it came down to it, I ate a lot of beef, bread, eggs and cheese… And really, is that such a bad thing? Sure, you can let yourself go and then they become bad things, but otherwise those things are building blocks! They are not bad for you so long as you are living an otherwise healthy life.</p>
<p>Just some food for thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Tripp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Tripp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>loved this, but you left out

&quot;beef was deemed an inordinate health risk to the public, and Mcdonalds acceded to a demand for them to use pressed shit in place of hamburger patties.&quot;

i really enjoyed this. I work in a toxic industry and fully half of every dollar goes to environmental issue. The single highest cost the company I work for incurs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>loved this, but you left out</p>
<p>&#8220;beef was deemed an inordinate health risk to the public, and Mcdonalds acceded to a demand for them to use pressed shit in place of hamburger patties.&#8221;</p>
<p>i really enjoyed this. I work in a toxic industry and fully half of every dollar goes to environmental issue. The single highest cost the company I work for incurs.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://rayharvey.org/index.php/2010/03/mcdonalds-and-the-clam-shell/comment-page-1/#comment-539</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kyle, tell me, dear sir, what was the name of the woman with the burnt vagina? You can’t tell me. your just talking out your ass, you insolent butt-hole. There never was a woman who sued McDonalds for a burnt vagina.&quot;

Don&#039;t be hatin&#039; on Stella&#039;s boiled coochie!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald&#039;s_Restaurants

Pat, that case had merit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kyle, tell me, dear sir, what was the name of the woman with the burnt vagina? You can’t tell me. your just talking out your ass, you insolent butt-hole. There never was a woman who sued McDonalds for a burnt vagina.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be hatin&#8217; on Stella&#8217;s boiled coochie!</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald&#039;s_Restaurants" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald&#039;s_Restaurants</a></p>
<p>Pat, that case had merit.</p>
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		<title>By: Renchy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray,

Why is it that every author you cite or highlight comes from the who’s who of has-beens? Rose Wilder is over. No one uses her anymore. Get it through your thin, bird-like skull. When I was in college in Illinois they made us memorize her famous quote. I felt that it was unjust that I had to remember such a trite saying. But shame on you in your so called interview for attacking environmentalism. (I’m trying real hard not to call you a son-of-a-bitch today.)

Sure, there are negative things about environmentalism. But there are also many, many historians (myself included) who consider environmentalism one of the most important movements of our century, just as many of us regard FDR one of the great presidents of all-time. You may hate him b/c he was a cripple, but we Jews love the way he stood up to the Krauts, and stuck up for the niggers and showed the rest of the world what America could do with a little collective ambition.

Obviously you have discovered a vein of old classic liberal writing which you feel obligated to pummel the rest of with on a quotidian basis. I Pencil, give me a fucking break.

And now you come out in defense of McDonalds. 

Kyle, tell me, dear sir, what was the name of the woman with the burnt vagina? You can’t tell me. Just as your boy Ronald Reagan (not a Libertarian because he had kids, even if he abused them) was never able to produce the “welfare queens” who drove their “pink Cadillacs” ... your just talking out your ass, you insolent butt-hole.

There never was a woman who sued McDonalds for a burnt vagina.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray,</p>
<p>Why is it that every author you cite or highlight comes from the who’s who of has-beens? Rose Wilder is over. No one uses her anymore. Get it through your thin, bird-like skull. When I was in college in Illinois they made us memorize her famous quote. I felt that it was unjust that I had to remember such a trite saying. But shame on you in your so called interview for attacking environmentalism. (I’m trying real hard not to call you a son-of-a-bitch today.)</p>
<p>Sure, there are negative things about environmentalism. But there are also many, many historians (myself included) who consider environmentalism one of the most important movements of our century, just as many of us regard FDR one of the great presidents of all-time. You may hate him b/c he was a cripple, but we Jews love the way he stood up to the Krauts, and stuck up for the niggers and showed the rest of the world what America could do with a little collective ambition.</p>
<p>Obviously you have discovered a vein of old classic liberal writing which you feel obligated to pummel the rest of with on a quotidian basis. I Pencil, give me a fucking break.</p>
<p>And now you come out in defense of McDonalds. </p>
<p>Kyle, tell me, dear sir, what was the name of the woman with the burnt vagina? You can’t tell me. Just as your boy Ronald Reagan (not a Libertarian because he had kids, even if he abused them) was never able to produce the “welfare queens” who drove their “pink Cadillacs” &#8230; your just talking out your ass, you insolent butt-hole.</p>
<p>There never was a woman who sued McDonalds for a burnt vagina.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat Renden --

It is, as Ray says, &quot;the paternalistic mindset&quot; run amok. The same principle was at work when the lady successfully sued McDonald’s because she scorched her clamshell (lol) and her anus with scalding McDonald’s coffee, which she situated between her thighs while driving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat Renden &#8211;</p>
<p>It is, as Ray says, &#8220;the paternalistic mindset&#8221; run amok. The same principle was at work when the lady successfully sued McDonald’s because she scorched her clamshell (lol) and her anus with scalding McDonald’s coffee, which she situated between her thighs while driving.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
		<link>http://rayharvey.org/index.php/2010/03/mcdonalds-and-the-clam-shell/comment-page-1/#comment-535</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mcdonalds should go with veggy burgers instead of beef. It weighs less and so use of petro would be less in shipping. Besides that feeding corn to cows will disrupt ethanol production, a much needed pile of shit that has obtained the ability to flip us all off.

Are the kids meal toys made in China ? And then placed next to my boys burger ? Are the burgers made in China ?

OH GOD !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mcdonalds should go with veggy burgers instead of beef. It weighs less and so use of petro would be less in shipping. Besides that feeding corn to cows will disrupt ethanol production, a much needed pile of shit that has obtained the ability to flip us all off.</p>
<p>Are the kids meal toys made in China ? And then placed next to my boys burger ? Are the burgers made in China ?</p>
<p>OH GOD !</p>
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		<title>By: Tippmann 98 Customized: The Ideal Starter Marker &#124; Real Xtreme Paintball&#39;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tippmann 98 Customized: The Ideal Starter Marker &#124; Real Xtreme Paintball&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] McDonald&#039;s And The Clam Shell — rayharvey.org [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat,

Why do you object to the comparisons between McDonald&#039;s and tobacco? Just wondering.

By the way, I grew up in the hometown of Krispy Kreme and RJR. By all rights, I should have died long ago from either lung cancer or from simply imploding under my own weight like a neutron star.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat,</p>
<p>Why do you object to the comparisons between McDonald&#8217;s and tobacco? Just wondering.</p>
<p>By the way, I grew up in the hometown of Krispy Kreme and RJR. By all rights, I should have died long ago from either lung cancer or from simply imploding under my own weight like a neutron star.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Renden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Renden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let’s not leave out the fact that McDonald’s has been attacked for the state of America’s waistlines. What I vehemently object to is comparisons of McDonald’s to American tobacco 
companies. 

When will people take responsibility for their own lives?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let’s not leave out the fact that McDonald’s has been attacked for the state of America’s waistlines. What I vehemently object to is comparisons of McDonald’s to American tobacco<br />
companies. </p>
<p>When will people take responsibility for their own lives?</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mad Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, you can just make MacDonalds a non-issue by not eating the crap they serve. Get your paper and ‘clamshells’ elsewhere!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, you can just make MacDonalds a non-issue by not eating the crap they serve. Get your paper and ‘clamshells’ elsewhere!</p>
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