11 Replies to “How Laissez-Faire and Private Property Saved The Pilgrims”

  1. I tried pulling this piece up earlier using the search feature on your site but got no returns on “Thanksgiving” or “Bradford.”

  2. Yeah, I deleted it in order to repost it. That’s probably why nothing came up.

    Happy Thanksgiving, ScummyD. Thanks for dropping by.

  3. forced collectivization never works (nothing that is forced upon a population by a government works) – voluntary ones often do work (Kibbutz’ in Israel).

  4. Your Thanksgiving piece gets me all fired up with libertarian zeal, as good writing in the genre always does. Then, as always, I run into difficulties.

    So here’s the Indians, contemplating these homeless people who are suddenly all over the place. Thinking, “We’re supposed to feed you? You’re kidding, right? Tell you what, just get back in your boat and move on.”

    “Many [settlers] sold away their clothes and bed coverings [to the Indians]; others (so base were they) became servants of the Indians . and fetch them water for a capful of corn; others fell to plain stealing, both day and night, from the Indians.. In the end, they came to that misery that some starved to and died with cold and hunger. One in gathering shellfish was so weak as he stuck fast in the mud and was found dead in the place.”

    Yep, the homeless.

    So to cure the problem, whoever was in charge of the white people gave each white family acreage of their own, and they prospered.

    This is where I have trouble. Because the white authority that instituted private property gave away something that wasn’t theirs to give. It’s as if the leader of the Skid Row homeless in Los Angeles decided to solve the problem by giving an office building or apartment building to each homeless person, so he could prosper. They would never get away with it. In early America, the white authorities got away with it

    “Nobody may rightfully take any of that property from you without your permission, not for any reason, not in any amount, not even for the so-called “common good.”

    Yet they did. The Europeans came and took the whole damn continent. And for the original owners of the property, things did not work out so well. Europeans succeeded in America by taking the property of others. Whether they then put it to communal use, or divided it up amongst themselves, is a relatively minor issue. Their success ultimately rested on the fact that they took it from the rightful owners.

  5. Hi Pat,

    It’s nice to see you. I liked your comment. Only one thing: the “whole continent” wasn’t owned by the native Americans. The native Americans hadn’t yet discovered the concept of rights, let alone ownership rights and private property rights, but apart from this, most of America was still unsettled. Not to say that atrocities didn’t take place, of course — on both sides — but there was plenty of vacant and unclaimed land, and room enough for everyone, as there still is.

    On a different note, why don’t you link your name back to your website, where readers can read some of your excellent writing?

  6. That’s a nice happy ending story. Unfortunately it’s very simplistic and unscientific. Communal ownership bad, private ownership good.

    The line is, ‘Lots of people died when the land was communally owned, people don’t starve when the own their own land’…ahh, but they do. It’s been well documented. Famine, or starvation has occurred under private property ownership, and, as it goes there are also very successful co-operatives.

    Prior to the nation state, much land was cultivated without private ownership, managed in a collective fashion often sharing the produce.

    I note someone above has said forced collectivism never works. Well, forced capitalism or neo-liberal economic policies don’t necessarily ‘work’ either.

    I’m neither pro communist/socialist nor anti capitalist. There are merits to both systems. To deny that is to be in denial.

  7. Pat,

    As with America, the indigenous in Australia suffered the same fate, as did some Arabs in more recent times.

    Up until Mr Cook arrived and the continent was ‘acquired’ by the crown in England as it was noted no-one ‘owned’ the land and the Aboriginals had no sovereignty over it, the natives had been getting by just fine with collective management of the land.

    Despite the widely held belief they were not just ‘hunter gatherer cavemen’ and they both cultivated and traded their produce.

    Con

  8. Whether it’s, as you say, “a nice happy ending story” or not is beside the point. The historical data speaks entirely for itself — even a trifle more loudly than historical data normally does.

    If it’s your intention to refute the fact that decollectivizing property saved the Jamestown settlers and also the Pilgrims, then let us see your historical data. You can call it unscientific until you’re blue in the face, but the fact remains: the moment Sir Thomas Dale decollectived Jamestown and the moment William Bradford did likewise at Plymouth, both colonies began to prosper.

    There has never been famine in the United States, as we’ve discussed here before. One thing alone is responsible for that. Quoting the great Peruvian economist Hernando de Soto, in his very edifying book The Mystery of Capital:

    Many of the poorest countries in the world possess enormous amounts of capital, but their ownership is insecure because of faulty or nonexistent property law or property rights protection. The value of private savings in the ‘poor’ countries of the world is forty times the amount of foreign aid they have received since 1945. [The citizens of poorer countries] hold these resources in defective forms: houses built on land whose ownership rights are not adequately recorded, unincorporated businesses with undefined liability, industries located where financiers and investors cannot see them. Because the rights to these possessions are not adequately documented, these assets cannot readily be turned into capital, cannot be traded outside of narrow local circles, cannot be used as collateral… [Compare that to property laws in the west] where every parcel of land, every building, every piece of equipment, or store of inventories is represented in a property document that is the visible sign of a vast hidden process that connects all these assets to the rest of the economy….

    The hour of capitalism’s greatest triumph is its hour of crisis. The fall of the Berlin Wall ended more than a century of political competition between capitalism and communism. Capitalism stands alone as the only feasible way to rationally organize a modern economy. At this moment in history, no responsible nation has a choice.

    By definition, capitalism is the antithesis of force. That’s why “forced capitalism,” as you say, is a contradiction in terms. And you’re incorrect: free markets do always work [they’re not perfect, but they self-correct]. Why? Because trade is the natural drive of the conceptual brain. The advent of laissez faire brought two absolutely critical things into this world on a widespread scale. Those two things are the division of labor and the transmission of knowledge, both of which benefited humankind inestimably. (See this video here [hat tip Greg]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo .)

    Here is what Capitalism actually is.

    And yet it’s not primarily capitalism’s practical benefits, which are indisputable, but the moral arguments that ultimately ground laissez-faire: namely, the fact that no person and no government has legitimate authority over the person or property of another. This axiom is fundamentally rooted in ethics, not politics, which is a subdivision of ethics and hierarchically dependent upon it. When in any given society the right to person and property are fully respected (money, remember, is also property), that system is a system of laissez-faire capitalism.

    Regarding the socio-political-economic differences between bands, tribes, chiefdoms, and nations, please see my article here.

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